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	<title>Comments on: Eircom and &#8216;next-generation&#8217; broadband</title>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://irelandoffline.org/2010/03/eircom-and-next-generation-broadband/comment-page-1/#comment-486</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 11:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regardless of any pricing issues, Comreg have defined next generation broadband as 25M, not 8. This is nothing more than Eircom&#039;s marketing department branding 8megs as &quot;next generation&quot; which is total bull. Eircom is holding the country back and has been sold so many times in the last few years, stripping it of cash and selling it on again, I&#039;ve lost count.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regardless of any pricing issues, Comreg have defined next generation broadband as 25M, not 8. This is nothing more than Eircom&#8217;s marketing department branding 8megs as &#8220;next generation&#8221; which is total bull. Eircom is holding the country back and has been sold so many times in the last few years, stripping it of cash and selling it on again, I&#8217;ve lost count.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://irelandoffline.org/2010/03/eircom-and-next-generation-broadband/comment-page-1/#comment-476</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 00:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are good and bad aspects to the NGB announcement (mainly good IMO). Also some scope for debate re: usage based billing (my opinion: inevitable). However this article is poorly written and sensationalist, and loses ALL credibility with the ridiculous &quot;200% on the average bill&quot; claim. Check your facts!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are good and bad aspects to the NGB announcement (mainly good IMO). Also some scope for debate re: usage based billing (my opinion: inevitable). However this article is poorly written and sensationalist, and loses ALL credibility with the ridiculous &#8220;200% on the average bill&#8221; claim. Check your facts!</p>
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		<title>By: avery</title>
		<link>http://irelandoffline.org/2010/03/eircom-and-next-generation-broadband/comment-page-1/#comment-456</link>
		<dc:creator>avery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2010 18:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in the past i have been a huge critic of eircom, but this IS a huge leap forward.

You have been far too harsh on eircom in this article.This is actually the biggest step we have take towards the &#039;green economy&#039;.

I will be switching over to eircom soon. Ill be going for the 8gb with 30gb download allowance and without a phone. Line rental is included in the charge so the max i pay each month is €30 unless i go over the download limit.

Hats off to eircom they have set down a marker for other ISP&#039;s to follow</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in the past i have been a huge critic of eircom, but this IS a huge leap forward.</p>
<p>You have been far too harsh on eircom in this article.This is actually the biggest step we have take towards the &#8216;green economy&#8217;.</p>
<p>I will be switching over to eircom soon. Ill be going for the 8gb with 30gb download allowance and without a phone. Line rental is included in the charge so the max i pay each month is €30 unless i go over the download limit.</p>
<p>Hats off to eircom they have set down a marker for other ISP&#8217;s to follow</p>
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		<title>By: cian_mac</title>
		<link>http://irelandoffline.org/2010/03/eircom-and-next-generation-broadband/comment-page-1/#comment-455</link>
		<dc:creator>cian_mac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 14:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to this CNN world broadband map : http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2010/03/tech/map.broadband.speeds/index.html, it seems Ireland has an average broadband speed of 5.32 Mbps, where as the UK&#039;s average is stated as 3.48Mbps. That can&#039;t be right can it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to this CNN world broadband map : <a href="http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2010/03/tech/map.broadband.speeds/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2010/03/tech/map.broadband.speeds/index.html</a>, it seems Ireland has an average broadband speed of 5.32 Mbps, where as the UK&#8217;s average is stated as 3.48Mbps. That can&#8217;t be right can it?</p>
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		<title>By: Liam</title>
		<link>http://irelandoffline.org/2010/03/eircom-and-next-generation-broadband/comment-page-1/#comment-454</link>
		<dc:creator>Liam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 14:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really must laugh at this &#039;news&#039;. There is nothing in this announcement to celebrate. Eircom have had a monopoly for too long and as new cheaper/faster alternatives come in, Eircom will be left by the side of the road. Hopefully people will wise up to the rip off service Eircom provide sooner rather than later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really must laugh at this &#8216;news&#8217;. There is nothing in this announcement to celebrate. Eircom have had a monopoly for too long and as new cheaper/faster alternatives come in, Eircom will be left by the side of the road. Hopefully people will wise up to the rip off service Eircom provide sooner rather than later.</p>
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		<title>By: Teknovis &#187; Eircom Broadband Update</title>
		<link>http://irelandoffline.org/2010/03/eircom-and-next-generation-broadband/comment-page-1/#comment-448</link>
		<dc:creator>Teknovis &#187; Eircom Broadband Update</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 11:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Finally, I agree with IrelandOffline&#8217;s assessment that there is a lack of &#8220;next generation&#8221; about this offering! See Eircom and &#8220;next-generation&#8221; broadband. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Finally, I agree with IrelandOffline&#8217;s assessment that there is a lack of &#8220;next generation&#8221; about this offering! See Eircom and &#8220;next-generation&#8221; broadband. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: /~colmmacc/ &#187; Fact-checking Ireland Offline</title>
		<link>http://irelandoffline.org/2010/03/eircom-and-next-generation-broadband/comment-page-1/#comment-442</link>
		<dc:creator>/~colmmacc/ &#187; Fact-checking Ireland Offline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 19:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] an anonymous, unattributed blog-post with no contact details; http://irelandoffline.org/2010/03/eircom-and-next-generation-broadband/, Ireland Offline are making some very strange claims.   eircom today have announced their “Next [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] an anonymous, unattributed blog-post with no contact details; <a href="http://irelandoffline.org/2010/03/eircom-and-next-generation-broadband/" rel="nofollow">http://irelandoffline.org/2010/03/eircom-and-next-generation-broadband/</a>, Ireland Offline are making some very strange claims.   eircom today have announced their “Next [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://irelandoffline.org/2010/03/eircom-and-next-generation-broadband/comment-page-1/#comment-441</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 19:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since the average speed possible is about 3Mbps to 5Mbps (depending on if ADSL or ADSL2+ is deployed), maybe as many people that would get 8Mbps will only be able to get 1Mbps. 
Eircom&#039;s planned reduction of &quot;congestion&quot; on backhaul, is only puting the kind of backhaul Magnet, Digiweb and UPC (ex Chorus / NTL) already have.  The only &quot;NGN&quot; element is their backhaul upgrades to the standard others already have. 
There is no NGN element for the circuit from the exchange to home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since the average speed possible is about 3Mbps to 5Mbps (depending on if ADSL or ADSL2+ is deployed), maybe as many people that would get 8Mbps will only be able to get 1Mbps.<br />
Eircom&#8217;s planned reduction of &#8220;congestion&#8221; on backhaul, is only puting the kind of backhaul Magnet, Digiweb and UPC (ex Chorus / NTL) already have.  The only &#8220;NGN&#8221; element is their backhaul upgrades to the standard others already have.<br />
There is no NGN element for the circuit from the exchange to home.</p>
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		<title>By: cgarvey</title>
		<link>http://irelandoffline.org/2010/03/eircom-and-next-generation-broadband/comment-page-1/#comment-440</link>
		<dc:creator>cgarvey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 16:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sheeno, I think the €50 refers to the maximum limit for the broadband portion of your bill. That is, your base broadband package (~€25-€44) plus overcharges of €2/GB up to a maximum of €50/month. 

Your link shows the package price, with line rental, but doesn&#039;t allow for over-charges.

Also, William was referring to IrelandOffline, rather than your comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sheeno, I think the €50 refers to the maximum limit for the broadband portion of your bill. That is, your base broadband package (~€25-€44) plus overcharges of €2/GB up to a maximum of €50/month. </p>
<p>Your link shows the package price, with line rental, but doesn&#8217;t allow for over-charges.</p>
<p>Also, William was referring to IrelandOffline, rather than your comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Sheeno</title>
		<link>http://irelandoffline.org/2010/03/eircom-and-next-generation-broadband/comment-page-1/#comment-439</link>
		<dc:creator>Sheeno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 16:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i don&#039;t have a &#039;side&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i don&#8217;t have a &#8216;side&#8217;</p>
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