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	<title>Comments on: In Depth Harvard University Survey Damns Ireland</title>
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		<title>By: kodi</title>
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		<description>Just read all of these reports. Unfortunately there are based on speedtest.net results. That&#039;s why i.e. Poland is behind the Ireland. I came from Poland and have a little different experience. I was living in a 400 thousand city. City itself has a DWDM ring which covers most of it and few year ago was expanded to cover neighbouring two cities. Lots of local providers are given access to this ring, so building disctrict/metropolitan networks is pretty easy. I was participating in one of the first commercial 1Gbit connection (capped at 100Mbits then) to one of the local networks. And the year was 2001. Yep - eight years ago. Current situation in Poland is as follows - even smaller towns have fiber connections. Lately local authorities started to encourage laying fiber cables along new roads. When you applying for planning permission, there is a question &quot;how the broadband will be connected to this house?&quot;.
The dearest telecom broadband DSL offer is 45E/month for 24Mbits. Cable offer speeds up to 120Mbits for the same price. LANs are different - usually you are getting full speed of the adapter in one LAN (which can spread to several square kilometers) and speeds outside of the LAN varies from 1Mbit to 1Gbit (depends on contract). Of course - wireless connection are existing as well (speeds from  512kbit to few megabits). 3G is much less popular than here. 

And one more important thing - I just got a fiber connection in Poland. Paying 50E/month for it (100Mbit). No download/upload limits. And it works at this speed - even using speedtest.net server in London I&#039;m getting like 56-60Mbit/s. Here in Ireland I have fastest broadband available for me which is BT broadband option 3. I&#039;m paying 56E/month getting connection speed 6Mbit/s. There is traffic shaping implemented which cuts down single session (FTP for example) to 900kbit/s. And &quot;No limit&quot; means 75GB/month (after which you are shaped down to the breathtaking 128kbit/s). I had dispute about this with BT which ended in conclusion that service is not cut off, just merely restricted to not influence other users (????). I will not mention 4 months of disconnected broadband. And all of that when I was living 5 meters from local MAN, to which 4 customers are connected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just read all of these reports. Unfortunately there are based on speedtest.net results. That&#8217;s why i.e. Poland is behind the Ireland. I came from Poland and have a little different experience. I was living in a 400 thousand city. City itself has a DWDM ring which covers most of it and few year ago was expanded to cover neighbouring two cities. Lots of local providers are given access to this ring, so building disctrict/metropolitan networks is pretty easy. I was participating in one of the first commercial 1Gbit connection (capped at 100Mbits then) to one of the local networks. And the year was 2001. Yep &#8211; eight years ago. Current situation in Poland is as follows &#8211; even smaller towns have fiber connections. Lately local authorities started to encourage laying fiber cables along new roads. When you applying for planning permission, there is a question &#8220;how the broadband will be connected to this house?&#8221;.<br />
The dearest telecom broadband DSL offer is 45E/month for 24Mbits. Cable offer speeds up to 120Mbits for the same price. LANs are different &#8211; usually you are getting full speed of the adapter in one LAN (which can spread to several square kilometers) and speeds outside of the LAN varies from 1Mbit to 1Gbit (depends on contract). Of course &#8211; wireless connection are existing as well (speeds from  512kbit to few megabits). 3G is much less popular than here. </p>
<p>And one more important thing &#8211; I just got a fiber connection in Poland. Paying 50E/month for it (100Mbit). No download/upload limits. And it works at this speed &#8211; even using speedtest.net server in London I&#8217;m getting like 56-60Mbit/s. Here in Ireland I have fastest broadband available for me which is BT broadband option 3. I&#8217;m paying 56E/month getting connection speed 6Mbit/s. There is traffic shaping implemented which cuts down single session (FTP for example) to 900kbit/s. And &#8220;No limit&#8221; means 75GB/month (after which you are shaped down to the breathtaking 128kbit/s). I had dispute about this with BT which ended in conclusion that service is not cut off, just merely restricted to not influence other users (????). I will not mention 4 months of disconnected broadband. And all of that when I was living 5 meters from local MAN, to which 4 customers are connected.</p>
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